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		<title>By: Mark Glaser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Glaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 12:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom,
I get your point, and understand that people like to use their laptop to augment what&#039;s being said. Maybe you could call me old-fashioned, but I&#039;d rather talk to people and discuss things to *their face* rather than to the back of their laptop. I like the idea of discussing things face to face and seeing expressions, going back and forth, and not the sneaking feeling that everyone is IM&#039;ing their friends back home about something else.
But that&#039;s just me...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,<br />
I get your point, and understand that people like to use their laptop to augment what&#8217;s being said. Maybe you could call me old-fashioned, but I&#8217;d rather talk to people and discuss things to *their face* rather than to the back of their laptop. I like the idea of discussing things face to face and seeing expressions, going back and forth, and not the sneaking feeling that everyone is IM&#8217;ing their friends back home about something else.<br />
But that&#8217;s just me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Griffith</title>
		<link>http://www.ojr.org/050510glaser/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Griffith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 11:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I met many people from the media on the left and right who made me think.  I especially liked meeting the people at the Faith Based Dinner like LaShaun and Mark Tapscott.  As a political scientist who has had panels on blogs I would have liked more content based panels like the one on local governments.  I was somewhat troubled by the emphasis on making money since I think advertising is a growing problem on the web.  I think that the bloggers are a very serious group.  I hope the future of blogs is with the group I met at BlogNashville since I think they will always take new media seriously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I met many people from the media on the left and right who made me think.  I especially liked meeting the people at the Faith Based Dinner like LaShaun and Mark Tapscott.  As a political scientist who has had panels on blogs I would have liked more content based panels like the one on local governments.  I was somewhat troubled by the emphasis on making money since I think advertising is a growing problem on the web.  I think that the bloggers are a very serious group.  I hope the future of blogs is with the group I met at BlogNashville since I think they will always take new media seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Cross</title>
		<link>http://www.ojr.org/050510glaser/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 08:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t assume that laptop users aren&#039;t paying attention. If we didn&#039;t want to listen to your talk, we wouldn&#039;t be in the room. Laptops enable people to augment your talk with other information.

I used to attend &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nanog.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NANOG&lt;/a&gt; on a regular basis. Its a conference for engineers who operate internet backbone networks. Everyone always has their laptops out. They are all on IRC. At least one speaker will comment on it every time. Its sort of a litmus test there. If you are a speaker and you comment on the laptops you are probably a bit out of place at that conference.

Speakers tend to be annoyed that laptop users aren&#039;t paying attention to them, but they are. Having a laptop allows me to dig into deeper information about your talk. I can look up websites you mention, back check facts you reference, and get more details, and I can do it now and not after the conference is over when I might forget something that I wanted to investigate. I can IM other people in the room and share observations about what is being discussed and plan good questions. I can take an urgent IM message so I don&#039;t have to walk out of the room and take a cellphone call. All of this improves the utility of your talk rather then distracting me from it.

When Dave Winer talked about his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archos.com/products/overview/pma_400.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Archos Pocket Media Assistant&lt;/a&gt; during the podcasting session I was able to pull up it&#039;s webpage and learn about it directly while he was discussing it. To me, thats powerful.

Rather then fighting this, I suggest working with it. Although Blogger cons are more discussions then talks, most conferences involve prepared notes. Make them available on the web in a web friendly format (not ppt) with hyperlinks that allow people to dig more deeply into the subject matter. Don&#039;t be so bothered if you hear people feverishly typing away. You probably inspired them to go do something. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t assume that laptop users aren&#8217;t paying attention. If we didn&#8217;t want to listen to your talk, we wouldn&#8217;t be in the room. Laptops enable people to augment your talk with other information.</p>
<p>I used to attend <a href="http://www.nanog.org/" rel="nofollow">NANOG</a> on a regular basis. Its a conference for engineers who operate internet backbone networks. Everyone always has their laptops out. They are all on IRC. At least one speaker will comment on it every time. Its sort of a litmus test there. If you are a speaker and you comment on the laptops you are probably a bit out of place at that conference.</p>
<p>Speakers tend to be annoyed that laptop users aren&#8217;t paying attention to them, but they are. Having a laptop allows me to dig into deeper information about your talk. I can look up websites you mention, back check facts you reference, and get more details, and I can do it now and not after the conference is over when I might forget something that I wanted to investigate. I can IM other people in the room and share observations about what is being discussed and plan good questions. I can take an urgent IM message so I don&#8217;t have to walk out of the room and take a cellphone call. All of this improves the utility of your talk rather then distracting me from it.</p>
<p>When Dave Winer talked about his <a href="http://www.archos.com/products/overview/pma_400.html" rel="nofollow"> Archos Pocket Media Assistant</a> during the podcasting session I was able to pull up it&#8217;s webpage and learn about it directly while he was discussing it. To me, thats powerful.</p>
<p>Rather then fighting this, I suggest working with it. Although Blogger cons are more discussions then talks, most conferences involve prepared notes. Make them available on the web in a web friendly format (not ppt) with hyperlinks that allow people to dig more deeply into the subject matter. Don&#8217;t be so bothered if you hear people feverishly typing away. You probably inspired them to go do something. </p>
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		<title>By: Mark Mills</title>
		<link>http://www.ojr.org/050510glaser/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 07:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone who wasn&#039;t there, it is interesting to see the 7 &#039;big ideas&#039; get ignored by the follow up comments.  All the attention goes to the &#039;pet peeve&#039;. And, most seem to defend the value of blogging whenever awake, even if it peeves others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who wasn&#8217;t there, it is interesting to see the 7 &#8216;big ideas&#8217; get ignored by the follow up comments.  All the attention goes to the &#8216;pet peeve&#8217;. And, most seem to defend the value of blogging whenever awake, even if it peeves others.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Chenoweth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Chenoweth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 18:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At just about any other conference, the laptops, digital cameras, and other gadgetry would have seemed an intrusive breach of etiquette. At BlogNashville, the technology parade was just part of the atmosphere]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At just about any other conference, the laptops, digital cameras, and other gadgetry would have seemed an intrusive breach of etiquette. At BlogNashville, the technology parade was just part of the atmosphere</p>
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		<title>By: brittney gilbert</title>
		<link>http://www.ojr.org/050510glaser/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>brittney gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 14:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The WKRN home page now has a bannered link to Nashville is Talking. Thanks for the mention.

Also, that cover story came out today, with a couple of quotes from you included: http://nashvillescene.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?story=This_Week:News:Cover_Story

Thanks for the interview!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The WKRN home page now has a bannered link to Nashville is Talking. Thanks for the mention.</p>
<p>Also, that cover story came out today, with a couple of quotes from you included: <a href="http://nashvillescene.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?story=This_Week:News:Cover_Story" rel="nofollow">http://nashvillescene.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?story=This_Week:News:Cover_Story</a></p>
<p>Thanks for the interview!</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Burk</title>
		<link>http://www.ojr.org/050510glaser/#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Burk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 14:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, one thing I liked about the interactive video, audio and chat simultaneous with the videocasting of the milblog session was that it meant the session belonged to all the participants, not just me at the front of the room.   I also put out the word ahead of time through the milbloggers and on Winds of Change &lt;a href=&quot;http://randomprobabilities.net/4/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;inviting comments and dialogue&lt;/a&gt; from milbloggers, those interested in milblogging and those skeptical about milbloggers, at Random Probabilities during the week ahead of the conference.

Whether I look at the blogosphere as an academic or as a participant, it&#039;s the network of conversations that I find most intriguing and, ultimately, at the core of its attraction and value.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, one thing I liked about the interactive video, audio and chat simultaneous with the videocasting of the milblog session was that it meant the session belonged to all the participants, not just me at the front of the room.   I also put out the word ahead of time through the milbloggers and on Winds of Change <a href="http://randomprobabilities.net/4/" rel="nofollow">inviting comments and dialogue</a> from milbloggers, those interested in milblogging and those skeptical about milbloggers, at Random Probabilities during the week ahead of the conference.</p>
<p>Whether I look at the blogosphere as an academic or as a participant, it&#8217;s the network of conversations that I find most intriguing and, ultimately, at the core of its attraction and value.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Seebach</title>
		<link>http://www.ojr.org/050510glaser/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Seebach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 14:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dunno, I rather liked the soft chitter of keyboards in the background while I was talking, because it meant there were more people listening than just the ones I could see.

Seriously, I do take notes (on a notepad) at conference sessions, because it helps me to listen attentively, and I don&#039;t see why typing about what you&#039;re hearing, whether for your own purposes or for your blog, is any more distracting.

At times when people were not actually in sessions, and free to talk, that seemed to be what most of them were doing.

-- Linda Seebach, Rocky Mountain News

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, I rather liked the soft chitter of keyboards in the background while I was talking, because it meant there were more people listening than just the ones I could see.</p>
<p>Seriously, I do take notes (on a notepad) at conference sessions, because it helps me to listen attentively, and I don&#8217;t see why typing about what you&#8217;re hearing, whether for your own purposes or for your blog, is any more distracting.</p>
<p>At times when people were not actually in sessions, and free to talk, that seemed to be what most of them were doing.</p>
<p>&#8211; Linda Seebach, Rocky Mountain News</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Niles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Niles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 11:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are always going to be a certain number of people who are beholden to ideology over evidence -- folks who define truth via ideology rather than experience. If their ideologies differ, those folks will never, ever get along.

The trick is for the rest of us to gather and start talking about how we can work together to build public attention for our work -- so that the public learns that it is has better alternative than the ideologues for its news and information.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are always going to be a certain number of people who are beholden to ideology over evidence &#8212; folks who define truth via ideology rather than experience. If their ideologies differ, those folks will never, ever get along.</p>
<p>The trick is for the rest of us to gather and start talking about how we can work together to build public attention for our work &#8212; so that the public learns that it is has better alternative than the ideologues for its news and information.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Glaser</title>
		<link>http://www.ojr.org/050510glaser/#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Glaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 10:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand how important it is to blog an event live. But maybe there&#039;s a way to just take notes on a notepad, and then write it up later? I&#039;m sure the same thing must go on in college classes these days, but when you know people are connected online, you just figure they&#039;re probably not really in the room, mentally. Hopefully someone can come up with a way to balance the need to blog with the need for some honest eye contact...

Mark, great to hear the training sessions went well. I agree that the convention had a very congenial feel to it, and people across the political spectrum got along well. I&#039;m sure that was the real idea behind the &quot;Respectful Disagreement&quot; session, and maybe the problems there just highlight that not everyone will get along...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand how important it is to blog an event live. But maybe there&#8217;s a way to just take notes on a notepad, and then write it up later? I&#8217;m sure the same thing must go on in college classes these days, but when you know people are connected online, you just figure they&#8217;re probably not really in the room, mentally. Hopefully someone can come up with a way to balance the need to blog with the need for some honest eye contact&#8230;</p>
<p>Mark, great to hear the training sessions went well. I agree that the convention had a very congenial feel to it, and people across the political spectrum got along well. I&#8217;m sure that was the real idea behind the &#8220;Respectful Disagreement&#8221; session, and maybe the problems there just highlight that not everyone will get along&#8230;</p>
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