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	<title>Comments on: Why journalists make ideal online community leaders</title>
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		<title>By: Glen Justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Justice</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with the premise here. But I will say this: leading an online community is not simple, whether you are a journalist or not. In practice, you run into all kinds of roadblocks that journalism did not prepare you for.

I left the New York Times to start MadMariner.com, an online boating magazine. To date, the site overall is doing pretty well. We publish a story a day and our stuff is getting read. But &quot;community&quot; is another matter.

I had 70K unique visitors in August, but most bypassed the forums altogether, thanks to the  chicken-and-egg equation we all know so well: you need people to participate in order to get people to participate.

&quot;Seeding&quot; forums with active posters from other sites is a good idea, but it is also no small task. Most communities won&#039;t tolerate being poached, and rightly so. So the appeal must be made individually, one-on-one. That takes time. Just getting good contact information can be a real effort. I find myself running people down the way I used to  chase sources on a story involving DeLay or Abramoff - a lot of work for one would-be convert.

There&#039;s also a fair amount of promotion that goes into this line of work - more than one would be comfortable with in a traditional newsroom. We all know those reporters who are good at touting their stuff. But promoting a site requires a far more brazen approach, both online and offline. Many of my reporter colleagues would not be comfortable doing this.

There is also a lot of competition in the arena of user-generated content, mostly from early adaptors who have been building forum traffic - and little else - for years. From a journalistic standpoint, there are not a ton of sites doing what MadMariner does. But there are a handful of GREAT forum sites. How to compete?

Of course, we have only been actively publishing for a few months, and the truth is that I have yet to turn my full attention to forums. When I do, I expect they will improve. But anybody considering a publishing venture or a community site should not underestimate this kind of work. It is a lot of fun and (at least for a print guy) it stretches new muscles, but it is a challenge.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the premise here. But I will say this: leading an online community is not simple, whether you are a journalist or not. In practice, you run into all kinds of roadblocks that journalism did not prepare you for.</p>
<p>I left the New York Times to start MadMariner.com, an online boating magazine. To date, the site overall is doing pretty well. We publish a story a day and our stuff is getting read. But &#8220;community&#8221; is another matter.</p>
<p>I had 70K unique visitors in August, but most bypassed the forums altogether, thanks to the  chicken-and-egg equation we all know so well: you need people to participate in order to get people to participate.</p>
<p>&#8220;Seeding&#8221; forums with active posters from other sites is a good idea, but it is also no small task. Most communities won&#8217;t tolerate being poached, and rightly so. So the appeal must be made individually, one-on-one. That takes time. Just getting good contact information can be a real effort. I find myself running people down the way I used to  chase sources on a story involving DeLay or Abramoff &#8211; a lot of work for one would-be convert.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a fair amount of promotion that goes into this line of work &#8211; more than one would be comfortable with in a traditional newsroom. We all know those reporters who are good at touting their stuff. But promoting a site requires a far more brazen approach, both online and offline. Many of my reporter colleagues would not be comfortable doing this.</p>
<p>There is also a lot of competition in the arena of user-generated content, mostly from early adaptors who have been building forum traffic &#8211; and little else &#8211; for years. From a journalistic standpoint, there are not a ton of sites doing what MadMariner does. But there are a handful of GREAT forum sites. How to compete?</p>
<p>Of course, we have only been actively publishing for a few months, and the truth is that I have yet to turn my full attention to forums. When I do, I expect they will improve. But anybody considering a publishing venture or a community site should not underestimate this kind of work. It is a lot of fun and (at least for a print guy) it stretches new muscles, but it is a challenge.</p>
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