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		<title>By: Francis Hamit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis Hamit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2005 01:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Library databases are not free.  The libraries pay substantial annual subscription fees for them.  This is your tax dollars at work.  The original publishers receive between between 30 and 75% of these revenues and those from database services such as Nexis-Lexis and Factiva.  The commercial price for individual articles runs from $2.95 each and up.

Nor is the market limited to the United States.  There are over a hundred nations where libraries have these same databases.

If the same articles were available on Google, for &quot;free&quot;, these libraries would not have to offer this service, but that&#039;s not likely to happen since the current market represents billions of dollars in revenue.

While most of the millions of articles in these archives are legally licensed, some are not.  This was what the Tasini case was about.  There are hundreds of freelance writers such as myself whose  work and copyrights are being infringed.  Apparently there is no way short of a lawsuit to stop such abuse.

With my own work, I do offer an alternative through online bookstores where dozens of my previously published articles are available either singlely or in thematic bundles.  They can be found on Amazon.com, Powells.com Elibron, Diesel e-books,Fictionwise and many affiliated sites.
These do sell.

The entire database industry is predicated on availability.  Millions of articles are available, but very few are actually downloaded or read. I base this upon usage reports obtained from my local library.  The cost per year is four cents for every person in the county or $1.65 for every article actually used.

The idea of archives is wonderful.  They are a great research tool.  But, without getting into the entire copyright issue (see my blog if you want that)the idea that any of them are or will be free is simply not in agreement with the facts.
It costs money to create articles and to format them for electronic distribution in any form. Like it or not, someone, somewhere, pays for them.

The entire growth of public library online databses during the 1990s in the U.S.A.was heavily subsidized by the Federal Government which also paid for the computers installed in every library branch to lessen the &quot;digital divide&quot; between those who could afford to buy one and those who could not.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Library databases are not free.  The libraries pay substantial annual subscription fees for them.  This is your tax dollars at work.  The original publishers receive between between 30 and 75% of these revenues and those from database services such as Nexis-Lexis and Factiva.  The commercial price for individual articles runs from $2.95 each and up.</p>
<p>Nor is the market limited to the United States.  There are over a hundred nations where libraries have these same databases.</p>
<p>If the same articles were available on Google, for &#8220;free&#8221;, these libraries would not have to offer this service, but that&#8217;s not likely to happen since the current market represents billions of dollars in revenue.</p>
<p>While most of the millions of articles in these archives are legally licensed, some are not.  This was what the Tasini case was about.  There are hundreds of freelance writers such as myself whose  work and copyrights are being infringed.  Apparently there is no way short of a lawsuit to stop such abuse.</p>
<p>With my own work, I do offer an alternative through online bookstores where dozens of my previously published articles are available either singlely or in thematic bundles.  They can be found on Amazon.com, Powells.com Elibron, Diesel e-books,Fictionwise and many affiliated sites.<br />
These do sell.</p>
<p>The entire database industry is predicated on availability.  Millions of articles are available, but very few are actually downloaded or read. I base this upon usage reports obtained from my local library.  The cost per year is four cents for every person in the county or $1.65 for every article actually used.</p>
<p>The idea of archives is wonderful.  They are a great research tool.  But, without getting into the entire copyright issue (see my blog if you want that)the idea that any of them are or will be free is simply not in agreement with the facts.<br />
It costs money to create articles and to format them for electronic distribution in any form. Like it or not, someone, somewhere, pays for them.</p>
<p>The entire growth of public library online databses during the 1990s in the U.S.A.was heavily subsidized by the Federal Government which also paid for the computers installed in every library branch to lessen the &#8220;digital divide&#8221; between those who could afford to buy one and those who could not.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Glaser</title>
		<link>http://www.ojr.org/p050201/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Glaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2005 12:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a comment from Gary Price, of ResourceShelf.com, who was having trouble posting this to the forum himself:

The San Francisco Public Library and THOUSANDS of other libraries are offering even more databases REMOTELY. In other words, available 24x7x365 WITHOUT leaving your home or office. It&#039;s ALL FREE. In fact, the SF PL now offers every page ever published (FULL IMAGE, delivered in PDF) of the NY Times back to Vol. 1, No.1.

Via a library here in the DC area, I not only have access to the Historical NY Times but also the Washington Post and Wall St Journal.

These databases are just the tip of the iceberg of the fee-based content is available via site licenses to the public WITHOUT having to leave their home or office. Full text, images, etc. from new and old publications, full text reference books, and other databases too!

What every library offers varies all you need is a library card. In Michigan, they have a statewide program where you don&#039;t even need to have a card.

Example: Here&#039;s what San Fran Public offers for FREE to anyone with a SF PL card.
http://www.sfpl.org/sfplonline/dbcategories.htm

All others need to do is check the web site of the library or libraries they have access to (http://www.libdex.com) or just give them a call.

Finally, more and more libraries are offering what&#039;s referred to as federated search technology. The SF PL offers this type of service. Using it you can search multiple databases simultaneously, take advantage of advanced search options, remove, dupes, etc. Perfect, no. But this type of technology is improving on a very rapidly.

Most of these tools can be searched via a &quot;Google&quot; like interface but also offer powerful searching capabilities and use controlled vocabularies to assist in bringing like things together.

The more you dump into Google (and others) the more difficult it will become for the typical searcher to find what they&#039;re looking for.
Only a few things can get onto the first page of results. Plus, time (how long people have to search), the fact that the typical searcher
only looks at the first few results, and outside influences can also make a difference on what makes it to the top of a results page.

Robust federated search technology allows content to be kept in individual databases until search time and merged together as needed. It also allows for a SINGLE interface to various databases (very little learning curve) while at the same time allowing the searcher to use the structure that the database might offer. As you know many of these databases offer controlled vocabularies to assist in brining like things together.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a comment from Gary Price, of ResourceShelf.com, who was having trouble posting this to the forum himself:</p>
<p>The San Francisco Public Library and THOUSANDS of other libraries are offering even more databases REMOTELY. In other words, available 24x7x365 WITHOUT leaving your home or office. It&#8217;s ALL FREE. In fact, the SF PL now offers every page ever published (FULL IMAGE, delivered in PDF) of the NY Times back to Vol. 1, No.1.</p>
<p>Via a library here in the DC area, I not only have access to the Historical NY Times but also the Washington Post and Wall St Journal.</p>
<p>These databases are just the tip of the iceberg of the fee-based content is available via site licenses to the public WITHOUT having to leave their home or office. Full text, images, etc. from new and old publications, full text reference books, and other databases too!</p>
<p>What every library offers varies all you need is a library card. In Michigan, they have a statewide program where you don&#8217;t even need to have a card.</p>
<p>Example: Here&#8217;s what San Fran Public offers for FREE to anyone with a SF PL card.<br />
<a href="http://www.sfpl.org/sfplonline/dbcategories.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfpl.org/sfplonline/dbcategories.htm</a></p>
<p>All others need to do is check the web site of the library or libraries they have access to (<a href="http://www.libdex.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.libdex.com</a>) or just give them a call.</p>
<p>Finally, more and more libraries are offering what&#8217;s referred to as federated search technology. The SF PL offers this type of service. Using it you can search multiple databases simultaneously, take advantage of advanced search options, remove, dupes, etc. Perfect, no. But this type of technology is improving on a very rapidly.</p>
<p>Most of these tools can be searched via a &#8220;Google&#8221; like interface but also offer powerful searching capabilities and use controlled vocabularies to assist in bringing like things together.</p>
<p>The more you dump into Google (and others) the more difficult it will become for the typical searcher to find what they&#8217;re looking for.<br />
Only a few things can get onto the first page of results. Plus, time (how long people have to search), the fact that the typical searcher<br />
only looks at the first few results, and outside influences can also make a difference on what makes it to the top of a results page.</p>
<p>Robust federated search technology allows content to be kept in individual databases until search time and merged together as needed. It also allows for a SINGLE interface to various databases (very little learning curve) while at the same time allowing the searcher to use the structure that the database might offer. As you know many of these databases offer controlled vocabularies to assist in brining like things together.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Rosenberger</title>
		<link>http://www.ojr.org/p050201/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Rosenberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi!  Let me just add a note to try to clarify a couple of things about OpenURL in light of Richard Silverstein&#039;s comments.  First of all, OpenURL does not grant anyone (blogger or reader) access to material that they can&#039;t already access through their own institution -- but it *is* a recognition that library print and electronic holdings can be rather challenging to navigate.  OpenURL is a way to cut through much of that navigation, using the metadata about the desired resource to provide the reader with a menu of options about how to access that specific content through their library.  For example, if I wanted to blog about an article in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techreview.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Technology Review&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (which has subscriber-only archives), an OpenURL would capture the metadata for that article (ISSN, volume, issue, date, author&#039;s name, article title, etc.).  Assuming there are mechanisms in place to associate those OpenURL links with their own libraries&#039; link resolvers, then a patron from Richard&#039;s local library (Seattle Public) would be offered links to the full text of that article in the databases &quot;Business &amp; Company Resource Center&quot; and &quot;Expanded Academic Index&quot; (both databases that SPL subscribes to), while a patron from my local library would be offered a link to the full text in &quot;Academic Search Premier&quot; (to which SPL doesn&#039;t subscribe) and &quot;Business and Company Resource Center&quot; -- but not to &quot;Expanded Academic Index&quot; (to which SPL subscribes but my library doesn&#039;t).  We would both also be provided a link to the record for &lt;i&gt;Technology Review&lt;/i&gt; in our respective online library catalogs, in case we preferred to read the article in print.  A user whose library did not subscribe to any of the above databases would still be provided the link to the library catalog record -- so even though online access wouldn&#039;t be an option for them, they could still go directly to their library&#039;s print copy.  I should note that although I cannot confirm that Seattle Public Library (SPL) has an OpenURL link resolver service, I know that neighboring King County Library System (KCLS) does -- and I suspect that SPL does as well, because both KCLS and SPL appear on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.serialssolutions.com/partners.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this client list&lt;/a&gt; from SerialsSolutions, a Seattle-based vendor whose major product, ArticleLinker, is an OpenURL resolver.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  Let me just add a note to try to clarify a couple of things about OpenURL in light of Richard Silverstein&#8217;s comments.  First of all, OpenURL does not grant anyone (blogger or reader) access to material that they can&#8217;t already access through their own institution &#8212; but it *is* a recognition that library print and electronic holdings can be rather challenging to navigate.  OpenURL is a way to cut through much of that navigation, using the metadata about the desired resource to provide the reader with a menu of options about how to access that specific content through their library.  For example, if I wanted to blog about an article in <a href="http://www.techreview.com/" rel="nofollow"><i>Technology Review</i></a> (which has subscriber-only archives), an OpenURL would capture the metadata for that article (ISSN, volume, issue, date, author&#8217;s name, article title, etc.).  Assuming there are mechanisms in place to associate those OpenURL links with their own libraries&#8217; link resolvers, then a patron from Richard&#8217;s local library (Seattle Public) would be offered links to the full text of that article in the databases &#8220;Business &#038; Company Resource Center&#8221; and &#8220;Expanded Academic Index&#8221; (both databases that SPL subscribes to), while a patron from my local library would be offered a link to the full text in &#8220;Academic Search Premier&#8221; (to which SPL doesn&#8217;t subscribe) and &#8220;Business and Company Resource Center&#8221; &#8212; but not to &#8220;Expanded Academic Index&#8221; (to which SPL subscribes but my library doesn&#8217;t).  We would both also be provided a link to the record for <i>Technology Review</i> in our respective online library catalogs, in case we preferred to read the article in print.  A user whose library did not subscribe to any of the above databases would still be provided the link to the library catalog record &#8212; so even though online access wouldn&#8217;t be an option for them, they could still go directly to their library&#8217;s print copy.  I should note that although I cannot confirm that Seattle Public Library (SPL) has an OpenURL link resolver service, I know that neighboring King County Library System (KCLS) does &#8212; and I suspect that SPL does as well, because both KCLS and SPL appear on <a href="http://www.serialssolutions.com/partners.asp" rel="nofollow">this client list</a> from SerialsSolutions, a Seattle-based vendor whose major product, ArticleLinker, is an OpenURL resolver.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Leebow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Leebow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 08:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it possible that this concept of for fee archives will be Napsterized? Here&#039;s one site that allows registration-free access to the NY Times and access to for fee archives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that this concept of for fee archives will be Napsterized? Here&#8217;s one site that allows registration-free access to the NY Times and access to for fee archives.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
		<link>http://www.ojr.org/p050201/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 02:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I followed your link to Luke Rosenberger&#039;s post about OpenURL.  It is indeed an intriguing development if fully implemented.  Wouldn&#039;t bloggers who use articles from periodicals as part of their research for preparing posts love to have a resource that would bring up the text of these articles at the click of a mouse?  Sure.

But not so fast.  You need access to a library that participates in OpenURL because they are the ones who provide you with the computer access to the databases.  If you&#039;re affiliated w. a research library you&#039;re in like Flynn.  If not, you&#039;re out in the cold.  Though I live in Seattle where you&#039;d think libraries would be hip to these sorts of developments, the Seattle Public Library doesn&#039;t seem to participate in OpenURL (at least that&#039;s what one reference librarian told me--but I am trying to confirm this info).

Also, if I understand OpenURL correctly, it will provide the researcher access to the text of an article in the database, but it will not allow you to link to it in your post in such a way that your blog readers can read the text as well.  So OpenURL is great for quoting text, but not for linking to it.

This is all based on what may be imperfect understanding of OpenURL since I&#039;m not technically up to speed on it.  I&#039;d love for this thing to develop further so that it&#039;s incredibly useful &amp; easy to implement.  As far as bloggers are concerned, I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s there yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I followed your link to Luke Rosenberger&#8217;s post about OpenURL.  It is indeed an intriguing development if fully implemented.  Wouldn&#8217;t bloggers who use articles from periodicals as part of their research for preparing posts love to have a resource that would bring up the text of these articles at the click of a mouse?  Sure.</p>
<p>But not so fast.  You need access to a library that participates in OpenURL because they are the ones who provide you with the computer access to the databases.  If you&#8217;re affiliated w. a research library you&#8217;re in like Flynn.  If not, you&#8217;re out in the cold.  Though I live in Seattle where you&#8217;d think libraries would be hip to these sorts of developments, the Seattle Public Library doesn&#8217;t seem to participate in OpenURL (at least that&#8217;s what one reference librarian told me&#8211;but I am trying to confirm this info).</p>
<p>Also, if I understand OpenURL correctly, it will provide the researcher access to the text of an article in the database, but it will not allow you to link to it in your post in such a way that your blog readers can read the text as well.  So OpenURL is great for quoting text, but not for linking to it.</p>
<p>This is all based on what may be imperfect understanding of OpenURL since I&#8217;m not technically up to speed on it.  I&#8217;d love for this thing to develop further so that it&#8217;s incredibly useful &#038; easy to implement.  As far as bloggers are concerned, I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s there yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Dubber</title>
		<link>http://www.ojr.org/p050201/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Dubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2005 04:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with the &#039;news is free&#039; thesis is that its logical extension suggests that words are public culture, and therefore merely arranging them in a different order should not give writers any status of &#039;ownership&#039;. Likewise music - just the same notes in a different order.

I&#039;m 100% in favour of newspapers charging for physical copies, and publicly archiving all articles for free online - but I don&#039;t think this is the right argument to prove it - and certainly not to newspaper owners.

It is, however, good business sense to establish yourself as a market leader, a paper of record and a reliable source for researchers of all kinds... and that will inevitably drive your hard copy sales.

I don&#039;t understand why the NYT doesn&#039;t see that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the &#8216;news is free&#8217; thesis is that its logical extension suggests that words are public culture, and therefore merely arranging them in a different order should not give writers any status of &#8216;ownership&#8217;. Likewise music &#8211; just the same notes in a different order.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 100% in favour of newspapers charging for physical copies, and publicly archiving all articles for free online &#8211; but I don&#8217;t think this is the right argument to prove it &#8211; and certainly not to newspaper owners.</p>
<p>It is, however, good business sense to establish yourself as a market leader, a paper of record and a reliable source for researchers of all kinds&#8230; and that will inevitably drive your hard copy sales.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why the NYT doesn&#8217;t see that.</p>
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		<title>By: William DuBay</title>
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		<dc:creator>William DuBay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do journalists really create information or do they just capitalize on it? It would be nice to think that journalists turn events into words, over which they assert ownership. Does that information really belong to them? Isn&#039;t language a public resource like the air and fish in the ocean? When a reporter covers an accident or a death or a scientific breakthrough, the reporter does not create the event or the language about it. There was a time when it seemed legitimate to charge for printing words on paper. There was a time when the newspapers were the only source of news. Today, newspapers can legitmately charge for hard-copy papers, but they cannot charge for the news, whether recent or archived. Like the air, the news doesn&#039;t belong to them. It is everybody&#039;s.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do journalists really create information or do they just capitalize on it? It would be nice to think that journalists turn events into words, over which they assert ownership. Does that information really belong to them? Isn&#8217;t language a public resource like the air and fish in the ocean? When a reporter covers an accident or a death or a scientific breakthrough, the reporter does not create the event or the language about it. There was a time when it seemed legitimate to charge for printing words on paper. There was a time when the newspapers were the only source of news. Today, newspapers can legitmately charge for hard-copy papers, but they cannot charge for the news, whether recent or archived. Like the air, the news doesn&#8217;t belong to them. It is everybody&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Niles</title>
		<link>http://www.ojr.org/p050201/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Niles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another interesting issue (to me at least): By removing articles to paid archives, newspapers are surrendering part of their authority as gatekeepers to content online.

When a online newspaper article moves off the free Web and into an archive, the passed PageRank value of the link from newspaper to the referenced Web site disappears. Since newspaper sites tend to enjoy high PR value, the loss of links from them can be significant to smaller Web sites that get a lot of traditional press coverage. With newspapers out of the game, that leaves to the blogosphere and, unfortunately, link spammers the job of determining which Web sites will place most highly in Google&#039;s search results.

Skeptical news publishers might respond: why should I care? Well, for starters, isolating oneself makes the Web (and society) a less rich place. And if publishers care only for the money, let&#039;s remember that if newspapers did a better job of linking *to each other* and keeping those links alive, they&#039;d do even better in search results, creating an opportunity to further expand their audience among typically younger readers for whom Google and Yahoo, not newspapers, are the gatekeepers to modern thought.

It is illuminating to me to see the number of professionals who are using Google for searches that in the past would have been done on Nexis. If  the search engines are conditioning a generation of information seekers to come to *them* for news, then the revenue from paid archives might die off with its current generation of users.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting issue (to me at least): By removing articles to paid archives, newspapers are surrendering part of their authority as gatekeepers to content online.</p>
<p>When a online newspaper article moves off the free Web and into an archive, the passed PageRank value of the link from newspaper to the referenced Web site disappears. Since newspaper sites tend to enjoy high PR value, the loss of links from them can be significant to smaller Web sites that get a lot of traditional press coverage. With newspapers out of the game, that leaves to the blogosphere and, unfortunately, link spammers the job of determining which Web sites will place most highly in Google&#8217;s search results.</p>
<p>Skeptical news publishers might respond: why should I care? Well, for starters, isolating oneself makes the Web (and society) a less rich place. And if publishers care only for the money, let&#8217;s remember that if newspapers did a better job of linking *to each other* and keeping those links alive, they&#8217;d do even better in search results, creating an opportunity to further expand their audience among typically younger readers for whom Google and Yahoo, not newspapers, are the gatekeepers to modern thought.</p>
<p>It is illuminating to me to see the number of professionals who are using Google for searches that in the past would have been done on Nexis. If  the search engines are conditioning a generation of information seekers to come to *them* for news, then the revenue from paid archives might die off with its current generation of users.</p>
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