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		<title>By: kidum cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>kidum cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 06:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post , i think in the last Tech-Crunch T50 you can find some companies with same model ..
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post , i think in the last Tech-Crunch T50 you can find some companies with same model ..<br />
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		<title>By: saleh ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>saleh ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: saleh ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>saleh ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 194.169.201.2</title>
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		<dc:creator>194.169.201.2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post but even with this model, many people will say that we can only monetize on advertising.

If I cannot sindicate my sources to my own sindicator, that tool is quite limited, if I can, then we can go a kind of piracy  2.0 because I understand it would be much about links and sources.

I liked very much  this approach, no matter what and I share most of what it states.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post but even with this model, many people will say that we can only monetize on advertising.</p>
<p>If I cannot sindicate my sources to my own sindicator, that tool is quite limited, if I can, then we can go a kind of piracy  2.0 because I understand it would be much about links and sources.</p>
<p>I liked very much  this approach, no matter what and I share most of what it states.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Grubisich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Grubisich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jon raises good questions that need hashing out.  I don&#039;t think building and continually updating the database I&#039;m talking about would dilute current Times print/online content.  The Times newsroom numbers close to 1,300, of which only a relative few are busy on any given day reporting, writing, editing or otherwise contributing to stories and other regular content.  Why can&#039;t the full potential of those experienced and talented staffers be unlocked?

Regarding &quot;the ethical issue of reporters and editor getting paid to deliver their wisdom to select customers,&quot; these staffers would be responding to specific requests outside of their regular assignments.  Even if they were paid a bonus for this outside work, I don&#039;t see an ethical issue.  Regular Times users would continue to get the daily report that editors assemble, using their judgment and balancing space limitations.  Nothing would be withheld from the report and reserved for TimesPlus subscribers.

Regarding how TimesPlus would actually operate, individual requests made via online forms would be computer-compiled and -sorted so that the same question asked, say, a thousand times (or more), would require one database-supported answer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon raises good questions that need hashing out.  I don&#8217;t think building and continually updating the database I&#8217;m talking about would dilute current Times print/online content.  The Times newsroom numbers close to 1,300, of which only a relative few are busy on any given day reporting, writing, editing or otherwise contributing to stories and other regular content.  Why can&#8217;t the full potential of those experienced and talented staffers be unlocked?</p>
<p>Regarding &#8220;the ethical issue of reporters and editor getting paid to deliver their wisdom to select customers,&#8221; these staffers would be responding to specific requests outside of their regular assignments.  Even if they were paid a bonus for this outside work, I don&#8217;t see an ethical issue.  Regular Times users would continue to get the daily report that editors assemble, using their judgment and balancing space limitations.  Nothing would be withheld from the report and reserved for TimesPlus subscribers.</p>
<p>Regarding how TimesPlus would actually operate, individual requests made via online forms would be computer-compiled and -sorted so that the same question asked, say, a thousand times (or more), would require one database-supported answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Greenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Greenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m skeptical for two reasons.  First, I detect a hint of the assumption of &quot;something for nothing&quot; when I read &quot;a continually updated database to which the entire Times editorial staff would, as part of their jobs, contribute the latest information (and maybe gossip).&quot;  If you add one more thing to the reporter&#039;s task list you risk diluting their ability to do their main job of gathering and digesting information.  And then there&#039;s the ethical issue of reporters and editor getting paid to deliver their wisdom to select customers.  This might create financial incentives that run counter to the more egalitarian traditions of journalism.

Second, the allure of the mighty database algorithm that connects individual preferences to a precise bit of content reminds me of the old line about shale oil in Wyoming. The potential of shale oil is great.  And always will be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m skeptical for two reasons.  First, I detect a hint of the assumption of &#8220;something for nothing&#8221; when I read &#8220;a continually updated database to which the entire Times editorial staff would, as part of their jobs, contribute the latest information (and maybe gossip).&#8221;  If you add one more thing to the reporter&#8217;s task list you risk diluting their ability to do their main job of gathering and digesting information.  And then there&#8217;s the ethical issue of reporters and editor getting paid to deliver their wisdom to select customers.  This might create financial incentives that run counter to the more egalitarian traditions of journalism.</p>
<p>Second, the allure of the mighty database algorithm that connects individual preferences to a precise bit of content reminds me of the old line about shale oil in Wyoming. The potential of shale oil is great.  And always will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Niles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Niles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t get lulled into the idea that this idea is strictly for the New York Times. Any news publication ought to be thinking about these types of creative ways to get folks to pay more money, directly or indirectly, to access the expertise of its journalists.

Of course, doing so presumes that your journalists have expertise that the public values. That&#039;s why it is so disheartening to see news organizations laying off experienced, knowledgeable staff members. Those folks are, or at least could be, valuable assets.

This is one idea. What else you got? ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get lulled into the idea that this idea is strictly for the New York Times. Any news publication ought to be thinking about these types of creative ways to get folks to pay more money, directly or indirectly, to access the expertise of its journalists.</p>
<p>Of course, doing so presumes that your journalists have expertise that the public values. That&#8217;s why it is so disheartening to see news organizations laying off experienced, knowledgeable staff members. Those folks are, or at least could be, valuable assets.</p>
<p>This is one idea. What else you got? <img src='http://www.ojr.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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