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		<title>By: brandon 111</title>
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		<dc:creator>brandon 111</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 03:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 87.117.240.150</title>
		<link>http://www.ojr.org/p1654/#comment-1694</link>
		<dc:creator>87.117.240.150</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well thought out - more like this please]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well thought out &#8211; more like this please</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Til</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Til</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See digital journalist has very good skill for his field. they have very good equipment to complete that task.and he learn lots of when he is working.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See digital journalist has very good skill for his field. they have very good equipment to complete that task.and he learn lots of when he is working.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.laptop-deal.net" rel="nofollow">Laptop Deal</a></p>
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		<title>By: Megan Gilbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a journalism student who believes that some of the best teaching comes from professors who can open up your mind to the reality that journalism is changing. I have a number of classmates who are convinced that since they know print and are good at it, that&#039;s all they need to know. In understanding that this industry is morphing in to something undefined at this point, it&#039;s seems commonsense that a basic level of skills across an array of media will pay off, but I don&#039;t know that my generation of student journalists is convinced that change is coming and news is changing. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a journalism student who believes that some of the best teaching comes from professors who can open up your mind to the reality that journalism is changing. I have a number of classmates who are convinced that since they know print and are good at it, that&#8217;s all they need to know. In understanding that this industry is morphing in to something undefined at this point, it&#8217;s seems commonsense that a basic level of skills across an array of media will pay off, but I don&#8217;t know that my generation of student journalists is convinced that change is coming and news is changing. </p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne Traub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne Traub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a journalism student our curriculum consists of learning all aspects of journalism, including some basic technology.  Although it is more about the writing and knowing how to be a strong journalist and reporter.  I think it is important to know all areas because with all the recent layoffs in journalism, many companies want employers that not only have strong writing skills, but also have design skills.
Great article!

http://newsnow.ning.com/profile/SuzanneTraub
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a journalism student our curriculum consists of learning all aspects of journalism, including some basic technology.  Although it is more about the writing and knowing how to be a strong journalist and reporter.  I think it is important to know all areas because with all the recent layoffs in journalism, many companies want employers that not only have strong writing skills, but also have design skills.<br />
Great article!</p>
<p><a href="http://newsnow.ning.com/profile/SuzanneTraub" rel="nofollow">http://newsnow.ning.com/profile/SuzanneTraub</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Pavlovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Pavlovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many classes I&#039;m taking as a graduate student deal with the issues brought up here.  Specifically, a class called &quot;News Now: Journalism in the Information Age&quot; is trying to prepare future journalists for what the field of journalism is becoming.  The class website, www.newsnow.ning.com, encourages students to look at ways in which Chicago media is covering stories in all mediums, but specifically online media.  This article was really interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many classes I&#8217;m taking as a graduate student deal with the issues brought up here.  Specifically, a class called &#8220;News Now: Journalism in the Information Age&#8221; is trying to prepare future journalists for what the field of journalism is becoming.  The class website, <a href="http://www.newsnow.ning.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsnow.ning.com</a>, encourages students to look at ways in which Chicago media is covering stories in all mediums, but specifically online media.  This article was really interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: 140.192.80.214</title>
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		<dc:creator>140.192.80.214</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My graduate class at &lt;a href=&quot;http://newsnow.ning.com/profiles/blog/list&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DePaul University is blogging about the media industry&lt;/a&gt; -- the changes as a result of the Web and also critiquing coverage in Chicago.

Why is it so scary that journalists do not control the distribution of their content?  If they post it online for the world to see, why wouldn&#039;t they want readers to share this information?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My graduate class at <a href="http://newsnow.ning.com/profiles/blog/list" rel="nofollow">DePaul University is blogging about the media industry</a> &#8212; the changes as a result of the Web and also critiquing coverage in Chicago.</p>
<p>Why is it so scary that journalists do not control the distribution of their content?  If they post it online for the world to see, why wouldn&#8217;t they want readers to share this information?</p>
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		<title>By: 77.100.243.50</title>
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		<dc:creator>77.100.243.50</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The premise was clear, if journalism was about providing information/ facts, why wouldn&#039;t we use everything we could conceive of to do that job?

An &lt;a href=&quot;http://viewmag.blogspot.com/2008/07/future-reportage-bbc-videojournalism6.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;expedition to Gallipoli&lt;/a&gt; to war graves in the Dardanelles from WWI resulted in a blog, article, radio piece for the BBC World Service, Video and promo. This was 1999, a few years before web 2.0.

I had been a Videojournalist by then for five years and a network producer/ reporter for 11, having worked for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.viewmagazine.tv/CuttingEdgeFilmmaking.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BBC,&lt;/a&gt; ABC News, WTN et al.

Nice post Nikki.  Like you today I&#039;m an academic and other things.

I&#039;d argue, you might agree, this is a much deeper disco which requires more sustained attention in these transitional times.

Firstly, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.viewmagazine.tv/TheMultimediaJournalist.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new art of journalism, multimedia&lt;/a&gt; and that&#039;s how I view it, &quot;an art&quot; requires different creative modes of thinking - design, narratology, image aesthetics etc.

Secondly,(Network)journalists at best can find the appropriation of terms such as &quot;network&quot; frustrating. That&#039;s not (charlie) Becket&#039;s fault. And when did a conversation become a &lt;i&gt; conversation &lt;/i&gt;. How does that work? I&#039;m not claiming ignorance. This shift to this new weburnalism  is attitudinal.

Can we teach &lt;a href=&quot;http://viewmag.blogspot.com/2009/01/diagramspraxis-and-how-to-creative.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;creativity?&lt;/a&gt; No, correction, can we learn to be creative? For even teaching and learning aren&#039;t the same.

There&#039;s semiotic and linguistic issues that are significant impediments and tend to alienate, just as I might get annoyed trying to learn a foreign language.

In many cases it&#039;s not that we don&#039;t have the right tools, it&#039;s the orthodoxy and methodologies that need rewiring and often that&#039;s a lengthier, more radical process.

Cheers
David
p.s Would love to chat some more

&lt;i&gt;bio
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apple.com/uk/pro/profiles/gyimah/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;, a senior lecturer, publishes &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.viewmagazine.tv/&quot;viewmagazine.tv &lt;/a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; - 2005 1st place Batten winner. Currently researching around &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wmin.ac.uk/page-17395&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;innovative journalism &lt;/a&gt; and will be at &lt;a href=&quot;http://wemedia.com/miami/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Miami Wemedia 2009&lt;/a&gt; discussing innovation and skills training etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The premise was clear, if journalism was about providing information/ facts, why wouldn&#8217;t we use everything we could conceive of to do that job?</p>
<p>An <a href="http://viewmag.blogspot.com/2008/07/future-reportage-bbc-videojournalism6.html" rel="nofollow">expedition to Gallipoli</a> to war graves in the Dardanelles from WWI resulted in a blog, article, radio piece for the BBC World Service, Video and promo. This was 1999, a few years before web 2.0.</p>
<p>I had been a Videojournalist by then for five years and a network producer/ reporter for 11, having worked for the <a href="http://www.viewmagazine.tv/CuttingEdgeFilmmaking.php" rel="nofollow">BBC,</a> ABC News, WTN et al.</p>
<p>Nice post Nikki.  Like you today I&#8217;m an academic and other things.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d argue, you might agree, this is a much deeper disco which requires more sustained attention in these transitional times.</p>
<p>Firstly, the <a href="http://www.viewmagazine.tv/TheMultimediaJournalist.html" rel="nofollow">new art of journalism, multimedia</a> and that&#8217;s how I view it, &#8220;an art&#8221; requires different creative modes of thinking &#8211; design, narratology, image aesthetics etc.</p>
<p>Secondly,(Network)journalists at best can find the appropriation of terms such as &#8220;network&#8221; frustrating. That&#8217;s not (charlie) Becket&#8217;s fault. And when did a conversation become a <i> conversation </i>. How does that work? I&#8217;m not claiming ignorance. This shift to this new weburnalism  is attitudinal.</p>
<p>Can we teach <a href="http://viewmag.blogspot.com/2009/01/diagramspraxis-and-how-to-creative.html" rel="nofollow">creativity?</a> No, correction, can we learn to be creative? For even teaching and learning aren&#8217;t the same.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s semiotic and linguistic issues that are significant impediments and tend to alienate, just as I might get annoyed trying to learn a foreign language.</p>
<p>In many cases it&#8217;s not that we don&#8217;t have the right tools, it&#8217;s the orthodoxy and methodologies that need rewiring and often that&#8217;s a lengthier, more radical process.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
David<br />
p.s Would love to chat some more</p>
<p><i>bio<br />
<a href="http://www.apple.com/uk/pro/profiles/gyimah/" rel="nofollow">David</a>, a senior lecturer, publishes <a href="http://www.viewmagazine.tv/"viewmagazine.tv </a rel="nofollow"> &#8211; 2005 1st place Batten winner. Currently researching around </a><a href="http://www.wmin.ac.uk/page-17395" rel="nofollow">innovative journalism </a> and will be at <a href="http://wemedia.com/miami/" rel="nofollow">Miami Wemedia 2009</a> discussing innovation and skills training etc.</i></p>
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		<title>By: 75.64.160.129</title>
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		<dc:creator>75.64.160.129</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a brilliant post and squares well with my own research in newsrooms.  I agree. I&#039;m an assistant professor at the University of Memphis, and we&#039;ve been grappling with this as we try to update the curriculum. Yes, we want our students to have Web skills (in part because we suspect that&#039;s going to help them a lot in job interviews) but the thinking is really the key part. The best way to develop the thinking is - yes, play with all of these different tools and develop some basic level of familiarity with them, then think critically about how you can use these tools to better realize core journalism values e.g. accuracy, watchdog, etc.

Carrie Brown
changingewsroom.wordpress.com ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a brilliant post and squares well with my own research in newsrooms.  I agree. I&#8217;m an assistant professor at the University of Memphis, and we&#8217;ve been grappling with this as we try to update the curriculum. Yes, we want our students to have Web skills (in part because we suspect that&#8217;s going to help them a lot in job interviews) but the thinking is really the key part. The best way to develop the thinking is &#8211; yes, play with all of these different tools and develop some basic level of familiarity with them, then think critically about how you can use these tools to better realize core journalism values e.g. accuracy, watchdog, etc.</p>
<p>Carrie Brown<br />
changingewsroom.wordpress.com </p>
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		<title>By: 152.75.125.192</title>
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		<dc:creator>152.75.125.192</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post...the world is changing before our eyes, it is all about technology....it&#039;s about speed of information and who breaks the story first...but let&#039;s not forget about those in other countries that are just so far behind...the so called, &quot;third world&quot;...I think it&#039;s time we bring them up to speed with these new technologies...it will make this world such a better place]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post&#8230;the world is changing before our eyes, it is all about technology&#8230;.it&#8217;s about speed of information and who breaks the story first&#8230;but let&#8217;s not forget about those in other countries that are just so far behind&#8230;the so called, &#8220;third world&#8221;&#8230;I think it&#8217;s time we bring them up to speed with these new technologies&#8230;it will make this world such a better place</p>
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