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	<title>Comments on: Los Angeles Times: One edition, lots of great photojournalism (and stories)</title>
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		<title>By: 99.117.161.63</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i recently re-subscribed too, had been a long time subscriber - there are some better pricing options if you pre-pay for an entire year. The hook is when the subscription goes back to the normal (higher) price. For a number of years I re-upped at the year rate but after a number of changes at the paper LATimes no longer wanted my money, for the best price. Then to complicate matters it took me a number of months &amp; many calls to get them to stop delivering the paper. I did miss the paper but not the hassles.
The paper continues to do lots of great stuff, including becoming the new sheriff in town - with a number of storys that have resulted in drastic changes made (for the good of) - Bell, LAUSD, LA Community Colleges &amp; more. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i recently re-subscribed too, had been a long time subscriber &#8211; there are some better pricing options if you pre-pay for an entire year. The hook is when the subscription goes back to the normal (higher) price. For a number of years I re-upped at the year rate but after a number of changes at the paper LATimes no longer wanted my money, for the best price. Then to complicate matters it took me a number of months &#038; many calls to get them to stop delivering the paper. I did miss the paper but not the hassles.<br />
The paper continues to do lots of great stuff, including becoming the new sheriff in town &#8211; with a number of storys that have resulted in drastic changes made (for the good of) &#8211; Bell, LAUSD, LA Community Colleges &#038; more. </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Niles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Niles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 07:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for highlighting some good stuff.

I do want to say that I didn&#039;t forget about the folks I left behind at the Times. Their professional fate weighs on me, both as a journalist and a citizen.

But people still working at misguided, poorly managed newspapers are not the only journalists in the field. As a former newspaper reporter, I&#039;m especially sensitive to the needs of those other journalists, too.

When subscribers continue to support newspapers that don&#039;t deliver what they once did, or don&#039;t report with the community&#039;s best interests in mind, they make it harder for start-ups and competitors to convince advertisers that they offer a better alternative.

Advertising isn&#039;t a strict zero-sum game, but continued support for publications that no longer earn our support on a daily basis does make it harder for their competitors to establish themselves in the marketplace.

Now, we can argue whether or not the LA Times is worthy of continued support. You&#039;re right, the paper produces some good work. But it also produces some &lt;a href=&quot;http://nepc.colorado.edu/newsletter/2011/02/research-study-shows-l-times-teacher-ratings-are-neither-reliable-nor-valid&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;destructive garbage&lt;/a&gt;. And until Zell&#039;s crew is gone, I&#039;m not re-upping.

That said, I&#039;d like to say that my wife and I have become newspaper subscribers again. But we&#039;re subscribing to the New York Times, on Kindle. We believe it to be a better paper, with more extensive journalism and sharper commentary.

Plus there&#039;s no ink to get my fingers dirty (which I hate). :^)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for highlighting some good stuff.</p>
<p>I do want to say that I didn&#8217;t forget about the folks I left behind at the Times. Their professional fate weighs on me, both as a journalist and a citizen.</p>
<p>But people still working at misguided, poorly managed newspapers are not the only journalists in the field. As a former newspaper reporter, I&#8217;m especially sensitive to the needs of those other journalists, too.</p>
<p>When subscribers continue to support newspapers that don&#8217;t deliver what they once did, or don&#8217;t report with the community&#8217;s best interests in mind, they make it harder for start-ups and competitors to convince advertisers that they offer a better alternative.</p>
<p>Advertising isn&#8217;t a strict zero-sum game, but continued support for publications that no longer earn our support on a daily basis does make it harder for their competitors to establish themselves in the marketplace.</p>
<p>Now, we can argue whether or not the LA Times is worthy of continued support. You&#8217;re right, the paper produces some good work. But it also produces some <a href="http://nepc.colorado.edu/newsletter/2011/02/research-study-shows-l-times-teacher-ratings-are-neither-reliable-nor-valid" rel="nofollow">destructive garbage</a>. And until Zell&#8217;s crew is gone, I&#8217;m not re-upping.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;d like to say that my wife and I have become newspaper subscribers again. But we&#8217;re subscribing to the New York Times, on Kindle. We believe it to be a better paper, with more extensive journalism and sharper commentary.</p>
<p>Plus there&#8217;s no ink to get my fingers dirty (which I hate). :^)</p>
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